Rasta Stats anyone?

topic posted Wed, May 7, 2008 - 3:19 PM by  chycho
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Hello

Anyone know of a site that has some good stats on the Rasta community? Specifically I’m trying to find out what the Rastafari population is in the United States … any additional stats would be a huge plus

Thanks for help :)

chycho
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  • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

    Thu, May 8, 2008 - 4:12 PM
    so far this is the best stats i've found

    Rastafarians - PDF file
    www.lcms.org/graphics/as...n%200407.pdf

    "Statistics: 3000-5000 in the U.S.; worldwide, 1 million"

    i thought there was a lot more, so if anyone knows of any better stats please post

    thanks

    chycho
    • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

      Thu, May 8, 2008 - 6:19 PM
      Statisics only account for natural phenomenon. So you may be looking a long time....
      • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

        Thu, May 8, 2008 - 8:22 PM
        it's a good starting point, hence my search :)
        • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

          Thu, May 8, 2008 - 8:53 PM
          Starting point in the search for what?
          • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

            Thu, May 8, 2008 - 9:22 PM
            i have a blog at www.chycho.com ... i try to present information in such a light that hopefully it will make people think about our reality, or what they preserve to be reality.

            I also like numbers. I like to use numbers to present ideas. I want to find some reliable data on the number of people that are Rastafari in the united states and compare them with the number of Christians that are in Iran ... specifically how prohibition is persecution of those who are Rasta.

            If the same laws applied in Iran to Christians who consume alcohol, then they would be jailed for practicing their religion ... but they are not. Christians are allowed to practice their religion in Iran and consume their alcohol. If we take this into consideration than religious freedom exists in Iran but not in the US ... etc etc ...

            hope that helps :)

            again, if anyone knows of reliable statistical data/sites than please either post them here or send me a message ... it would be greatly appreciated

            thanks

            chycho
            • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

              Thu, May 8, 2008 - 10:33 PM
              There is no such data.
              • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                Fri, May 9, 2008 - 9:07 AM
                there is always data ... i linked a source above ... the question is, how accurate is the data and what do other sources have to say
                • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                  Fri, May 9, 2008 - 11:15 AM
                  Fortunately not in this instance, Because as I've said, Statistics cannot consider the supernatural. Do you consider "Data" regarding the number of stars in the sky "reliable"? The cause of your query is honorable however misguided. Rasta could never enter into any comparisons.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                    Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:32 PM
                    i didn't say i was trying to compare Rasta. I plan on comparing laws and freedoms of two governments using certain data.

                    and i definitely disagree with your first assumption. what you are stating is the same thing as the Christian church stated about mathematics and astronomy and etc etc ... science in general ... If you recall, many scientist were burned at the stake for trying to understand the material and non-material world we occupy, both physically and spiritually.

                    mathematics is just a language. it can be used to communicate in the same manor as we are communicating right now. instead of using letters, mathematics uses numbers and operations.

                    i hope you understand.
                    • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                      Fri, May 9, 2008 - 9:36 PM
                      I know you will not find Rastafari as Data, Should I Burn you at the stake for this? 'Rasta cannot enter into comparison' means that 'it' cannot be conceptualized to conform into a mathematical context.
                      • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                        Fri, May 9, 2008 - 10:26 PM
                        I'm sorry to hear that your perspective does not allow you to process what i stated above

                        if anyone else knows of a sources of information please post ...

                        thank you :)
                        • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                          Sat, May 10, 2008 - 8:21 AM
                          Your statements would process fine if they happened to have a relevance to the subject. Perhaps you can understand my rejection of your desire to "use Rasta" for your political manipulations but are reluctant to take responsiblity for the schisms on which the asperation rests.
                          • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                            Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:36 AM
                            Let me explain in another way. This is about communication after all is it not?

                            The word “apple” contains the letters “a” “p” “l” and “e”. When these letters are placed in a certain order, with repetition, we get the word “apple”. This is just one word in the English language. There are hundreds of languages in the world and thousands of dialects. Mathematics is one of them.

                            However, there is one very important difference between the language of mathematics and the language of specific societies/tribes. Mathematics is the only truly international language. It is used by every country, may they be tribal or civil. More importantly however, mathematics is the first language used by humans to communicate. Mathematics gave birth to every other language on earth, including the language of music and dance and art (paintings/drawing/etc.)

                            Hence communication in mathematics is the key. After all, the reason that the world and our society are in the mess that they are in is because people do not seem to understand each other. It is about communication after all.

                            Because you do not agree with the language I have chosen to communicate it does not mean it is an invalid language or that the dialogue is irrelevant. It just means that you do not understand the meaning behind the words/number/operations.

                            Maybe the problem is not in the language of mathematics per say, maybe it is your inability to communicate in this language (no offense meant in this statement). If you would like to get a better understanding of what mathematics really is, them consider viewing the following videos I have posted on youtube to help people learn the language of mathematics. There are also exercises available on my site if you chose to practice your new found abilities in communication.

                            Below is a table of contents listing all the videos that are available - I recommend starting with the real number set videos … I think you will love them video.google.ca/videoplay … 17 minutes well worth watching

                            All the best to you

                            And again, if anyone has any sources of information with interesting data on Rasta please post

                            best

                            chycho


                            Math videos:

                            www.chycho.com/

                            Preface: About This Site

                            Section 1: Introduction and Instructions

                            Section 2: The Real Number Set

                            Section 3: Zero and Infinity

                            Section 4: Basic Operations

                            Lesson 1: Adding and Subtracting

                            Lesson 2: Dealing with Negative Numbers

                            Lesson 3: Multiplying and Dividing

                            Section 5: Prime Numbers

                            Lesson 1: Understanding Prime Numbers

                            Lesson 2: Finding Prime Factors

                            Section 6: Fractions

                            Lesson 1: Reducing Fractions

                            Lesson 2: Multiplying and Dividing Fractions

                            Lesson 3: Adding and Subtracting Fraction

                            Section 7: Basic Geometry

                            Lesson 1: Parallel Lines

                            Lesson 2: Congruent and Similar Triangles

                            Section 8: Trigonometry

                            Lesson 1: Introduction to Trigonometry

                            Lesson 2: Understanding Right Triangles

                            Lesson 3: Solving Right Triangles

                            Section 9: Coordinate Geometry

                            Lesson 1: Cartesian Coordinate System

                            Lesson 2: Slope and Midpoint of a Line

                            Lesson 3: Distance of a Line

                            Section 10: Proofs

                            Lesson 1: Introductions to Proofs

                            Lesson 2: Proofs Involving Triangles

                            Lesson 3: Proofs Involving a Line

                            Lesson 4: Coordinate Geometry Proof

                            Downloads: Math Videos Available for Download
                            • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                              Sat, May 10, 2008 - 4:34 PM
                              Perhaps rather I should explain in a different way. The term "Rastafari" is a Personal Noun. It is a Name which Identifies *a Supernatural Being*. Therefore how can you formulate a statistic, which accounts only for material, regarding him?
                              • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                                Sat, May 10, 2008 - 5:47 PM
                                are you not occupying a material body? I seek to find out how many bodies in the United States follow "Rastafari".

                                maybe it is the way i worded my question in the beginning that has created our miscommunication. I do not wish to quantify "Rastafari", i seek statistical data on how many material bodies (humans) are his followers ... specifically in the United States if possible.


                                • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                                  Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:54 AM
                                  Of course not! Material is oppupying I.
                                  Which is the fundamental distinction between Rastafari and conceptualized religion. Rastafari are the realized supernatural identity itself. Not a systematic dogma held by material bodies, therefore unapplicable to the mundane.
                                  • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                                    Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:12 AM
                                    my search for data is independent from the belief that the "material occupies you" or that "you occupy the material". It is only dependent on the material being present, which according to your statement, it is.

                                    since there is a material presence than the material is quantifiable.

                                    so if anyone knows of any sources of data that quantifies the material presence of Rastafari, please post the links or information here.

                                    thank you :)

                                    chycho

                                    • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                                      Sun, May 11, 2008 - 12:10 PM
                                      The material presence of Rastafari is inseperable from, yet does not represent the totality of, the identification.
                                      • Re: Rasta Stats anyone?

                                        Sun, May 11, 2008 - 2:53 PM
                                        soooooo ... anyone else have any thoughts on this? :)

                                        and oh ya, if anyone knows of any sources of information on Rasta data please share.

                                        thank you

                                        chycho
                                        • Why Babylon Needs Rasta to be a Statistic

                                          Sun, May 11, 2008 - 5:55 PM
                                          Babylon needs Rasta to be a statistic to appease their vain fear of the unfathomable. Babylon is insecure and ignorant and so is afraid of what it does not understand, cannot explain, and quantify. That is why after I have exsaustively explained why Rastafari is incomptable with Statistics they act disrepectfully and continue to assert the imaginary exisitence of "Rasta Data". Give Thanks Rasta
                                          • Re: Why Babylon Needs Rasta to be a Statistic

                                            Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:11 PM
                                            Sorry Eli-Jah, but just because you explained your perspective it doesn't mean i have to agree with you. Bush and Cheney have "exsaustively explained" their positions as well ... so has Ghandi, Jesus, Mohammad, King, X, Rome, Empire, Genocide, Love, Beauty, Life, Food, Nature, Eli-jah to chycho, and chycho to Eli-Jah ... but no one is obligated to agree ... is this your belief of what Rastafari is all about?

                                            and yes, i am originally from Babylon, but i am foremost from this earth and my God ... not your "exsaustively explained why Rastafari is incomptable with Statistics" .. and if you thought that i was being "disrepectfull" than you are less worldly than i envisioned ... you can consider this as an offense if you wish ... but remember disrespecting you is not equivalent to disrespecting Rasta ... you must have a grand ego if you believe that

                                            Rasta Data is what i seek ... if you wish, call it Gods Children's Data is what i seek

                                            and remember, since you assume that talking about Rasta using the language of mathematics is disrespectful, than you must also believe that talking about Rasta in English is disrespectful, so think twice about your reply since you might offend your perception of Rastafari by using a language to talk about Rastafari

                                            good luck to you in your present life and your future existence Eli-Jah. May Rasta guide you

                                            as for Gods Children's Data, please share if you have a link

                                            thank you

                                            chycho
                                            • Re: Why Babylon Needs Rasta to be a Statistic

                                              Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:23 PM
                                              I'm not concerned with whether you agree with me.
                                              • Re: Why Babylon Needs Rasta to be a Statistic

                                                Mon, May 12, 2008 - 11:50 AM
                                                But your already starting to come around. When you say your looking for "G-d's Children's Data". Can't you see how silly that sounds? That you can't assosiate a concept like "G-d's Children" with mundane things like statistics. Thats what makes them G-d's Children, That they are beyond compare. Unsearchable. Unquantifiable. Thats why Rasta can't come into the world as just another religious group(and JAH knows they don't want us either). The whole phenomenon is spiritual in nature. If Babylon could pin us down and say "this is rasta" and "there are this many rasta in the U.S" then We would be vunerable, So We must remain beyond worldy identifications and ever conquer.
                                                • Re: Why Babylon Needs Rasta to be a Statistic

                                                  Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:04 PM
                                                  you missed the point a few posts ago Eli-Jah ...

                                                  math is a language, just like English that we are using to communicate right now ... letters=numbers, words=sequence of numbers, sentences=equations and statements, essays and books= theorems and proofs ... i really can't explain this any simpler than this.

                                                  Math is just a language, just like any other language.

                                                  in this conversation we have had, you have used words to talk to me about your beliefs, numbers and equations can be used for the same purpose.

                                                  it's really unfortunate that the language of mathematics is so misunderstood, and that the barriers people have in place can make them so blind to the truth that they believe a language is taboo

                                                  Eli-Jah, i again wish you the best ... if you have any questions or want further information please read the posts on this page from the beginning
                                                  • Re: Why Babylon Needs Rasta to be a Statistic

                                                    Sat, May 17, 2008 - 9:59 AM
                                                    Blessed Love and Isis, I must agree with Ras Eli-Jah on this one. It is true that mathamatics is a language, a universal language? Perhaps, but language is actually one of the most primal ways to communicate amongst ourselves. As the ancestors gave way to temptation and the like, we lost our ability to speak speechless. Some call this telepathy. Mathamatics in particular is the language of science which has little to do with the natural world or natural livity. This is why I believe that Rastafari could NEVER fit into a stat or the language of math. A Roots Rasta probably does not even want to be part of that data as we only seek recognition from the Most High H.I.M. This is the greatest blessing and to try to use such data to 'convince' the world of this reality is fruitless I'm afraid, as you can not wake those who want to keep sleeping. I do agree with the whole math as a language bit but how does that tongue uplift the name of the Most High?
                                                    • Re: Why Babylon Needs Rasta to be a Statistic

                                                      Sat, May 17, 2008 - 4:43 PM
                                                      how did you first learn about Rastafari? did it come to you in a dream? or did you read about it? or maybe you heard a Marcus Garvey speech? maybe it was a Bob Marley song? maybe it was Toots?

                                                      i disagree with why we have developed language but that is beside the point.

                                                      someone must have introduced the concept of Rasta, even if you believe that Rasta was the one who communicated to you.

                                                      you have just come across a singularity in the language of mathematics. in English we say, "which came first the chicken or the egg."




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